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million for those when it comes to fighting cancer. and was an inspiration for a lot of folks being a cancer survivor. does he have a sense, does he have a chance here of redeeming himself? >> well, i think americans always are generous in forgiving, particularly people who do charitable work and help people who are in need. what is interesting, i find, about lance armstrong, though, is there is a duality to his personality. as you saw in that deposition, he excoriates his fellow team members, anybody who dared to criticize him, and who maybe those team members were actually telling the truth. so you have that side of him, which might be a very deceptive, deceitful side and then you have this generous side responsible for the charitable works. so you kind of have to look at the whole man ultimately and decide whether he's worthy of redemption and whether he's worthy of being rehabilitated.
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>> a lot of people will be trying to make that determination themselves and watching that interview closely. paul kalyn, thank you so much, paul. appreciate it. that's it for me. "cnn newsroom" continues with brooke baldwin. two brothers about to go blind decide to end their lives together. but it is what doctors do next that is stirring up the debate over the right to die. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. guns, ammo, and the white house. find out what advice vice president joe biden gave his boss. plus, critics pounce on coca-cola's new obesity ad. how scared is one of the world's most popular brands about soda bans? and -- >> he's got to crawl over a lot of broken glass. >> -- after getting lance armstrong to confess, oprah says the cyclist didn't come clean in the manner she expected.
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i'm brooke baldwin. good to see you. we have got some developing news now out of the white house. let me tell you what we know here. we know the vice president, joe biden, has just briefed the president on his gun violence package. and within this past hour, the white house announced a formal unveiling tomorrow. tomorrow, just before noon, we're hearing the white house planned to curb gun violence post sandy hook. want to go quickly to jessica yellin, our chief white house correspondent there. jessica, are we any closer to learning what precisely is in the package? >> reporter: hi, brooke. well, first of all, jay carney, the white house press secretary explicitly confirmed that tomorrow the president will say that he wants to press congress to pass an assault weapons ban, to press for more background checks, and to include a limit on those high capacity magazines allowing for more bullets in guns. those will be three elements.
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but we also heard that the vice president has been talking to people about limiting gun swaps, so that i can't privately sell you a gun without having it somehow be registered, and that they'll also be measures on mental health, and some other executive actions, some 19 executive recommendations for things that the president can do on his own. here's what jay carney had to say at the briefing. >> the president will take a comprehensive approach. but it is a simple fact that there are limits on what can be done within existing law, and congress has to act on the kinds of measures that we have already mentioned, because the power to do that is reserved by congress. and to congress. >> reporter: so next comes the politics and we can talk about that if you want, brooke. >> let's talk about that. we know it is likely to be pretty darn tough.
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let's listen, in fact. this is some sound, this is the aunt of one of the 20 children killed in newtown last month, and her own niece was killed, she is talking about the second amendment. she talks gun rights here. take a listen. >> i think our country is founded in such a different way that, you know, so much -- with the second amendment even being part of the constitution, it is so much about protecting liberty because of how we establish ourselves as a country, such a part of our foundation as a country. i think it has to be part of the discussion as far as respecting where we came from, as a country, but also realizing the world we live in has got some problems that are directly related to safety in schools and that these tragedies are happening, we can't -- we can't ignore what elements are coming into that, what factors and there are many. >> so that obviously an
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indication of where part of the country is on this whole subject. we heard the president talking yesterday, the news conference, and paraphrasing, but basically saying, look, i'm going to give my best ideas. whether they'll fly or not in congress we'll have to see. do we know, jessica, exactly how hard they plan to actually fight for these ideas? >> reporter: well, look, brooke, the president has made it clear that this is a top priority for him, and i have, you know, in the five years i've covered him, i've never seen him quite this personally impassioned about an issue. so does that mean that he'll put more elbow grease into it? i asked in the briefing will he do more, you know, back slapping with members of congress? will he do more personal lobbying? jay wouldn't say. i do get the sense that this is an issue that he will personally champion. members of senior democrats on capitol hill have said that they do not see the votes for at
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sau the assault weapons ban. some democrats said if there is an assault weapons passage, it has to be part of a comprehensive package. i would add the vice president is making it clear their priority is this high capacity magazine limit. so we'll see. but i think it is a priority here. >> we'll talk tomorrow, once this whole plan is unveiled. jessica yellin for me at the white house. thank you. in aurora, colorado, that movie theater where 12 people were killed last summer and that mass shooting reopens to the public this week. the theater's owners have invited survivors. they have invited victims' families to tour the complex, both today and tomorrow. and then this thursday, the theater will host what it calls an evening of remembrance including a movie. now, the offer to come to this theater offended a number of the families here. one family that will not be attending is that of john larimer, who died shielding his girlfriend from the gunfire. cnn's carol costello talked with his father earlier today.
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>> they didn't contact us directly. they went through another organization who invited us. and the family, we got together and chatted about it and decided that it wasn't appropriate for us to attend. >> and you also suggested that other families of victims and other victims boycott this special evening. >> yeah. we talked a little bit to some of the other families and agreed with them that this was not really the best way to handle the situation. >> according to the denver post, some 2,000 theater tickets will be handed out to victims, first responders and to hospital workers, counselors will also be available. all right, oprah winfrey has called it the biggest interview she has ever done. sitting down with the man who was once called america's
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greatest sporting hero. now she says an admitted drug cheat. oprah appeared on cbs this morning to talk about what lance armstrong was like during that interview, went on for some two and a half hours. watch. >> i choose not to characterize. i would rather people make their own decisions about whether he was contrite or not. i felt that he was thoughtful. i thought he was serious. i thought that he certainly had prepared himself for this moment. i would say that he met the moment. and at the end of it, two and a half, literally two and a half hours, we both were pretty exhausted. and i would say i was satisfied. >> an admission of doping, a huge about face after more than a decade of public denials. >> i've said it for seven years, i've said it for longer than
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seven years. i have never doped. i can say it again. but i said it for seven years, it doesn't help. why would i then enter into a sport and dope myself up and risk my life again? that's crazy. i would never do that. no. no way. >> that was back in 2005. here we are today. i'm joined now by a man who once rode with lance armstrong, former teammate paul willerton. welcome to you. you know, listen, you say you've known the truth for years. now we're getting it vis-a-vis oprah winfrey. what is your reaction to this confession? >> yeah. didn't come as much of a surprise at all, i think. he's the big question at this point is, like, the previous guest was talking about, was the legal wrangling and how he's going to unravel this. and what all that looks like going forward. >> do you in some way feel vindicated? are you angry? how do you feel? >> i am not angry. i got through that stage many years ago.
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it would be nice to get some apologies, a lot of apologies privately and publicly, from him to people like greg lemond and frankie and bessey and drau and many, many others. the list is very long. i don't have any anger. what i have right now is a lot of hope for the sport of cycling and the future of cycling, which is in distress right now because of his actions. >> let me ask you, though, because of his actions, you know about that thousand page usada report, when the news broke they were stripping him of his seven tour de france titles and not only in this report did it say armstrong used, but that he also gave these performance enhancing drugs to his teammates. and basically saying, look, if you didn't juice, you're out. paul, i just have to ask, did you ever juice? >> no. no. i was an athlete who got pushed out by all of that. so really bothers me when i hear
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people say, always a level playing field, they're trying to justify this in any way, and really people who don't have a background in sports or didn't try to actually mackke a livingt it might want to express that point of view, but that's really sad. and it is a reflection on our society as a whole. >> were you pushed out because you didn't? >> not because i refused to at the time that it was all started happening with the blood products and epo, blood doping and that sort of thing, we were very confused by what was happening. so when the sport started to change and the speed started to go up so dramatically, there was actually quite a few who got pushed out just because we were confused and didn't do research and didn't -- never occurred to us that we actually had to do these types of products to
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compete. >> did you know some of these teammates who felt that they were forced into juicing or else they were off the team? >> yeah. lots of them are my friends and they're still friends. so we talk about it. we talked about it back then. and it is not a very large community. a lot of -- a lot of us try to tell the story to the world, over a decade ago, and the ones who did just got annihilated by lance armstrong. >> annihilated. a strong word. and, you know, you talk about wanting maybe apologies for you or teammates, members of the cycling community. so, paul, forget about the cheating, the lying, the duping the world for years, what about you and these other cyclists and the teammates? because lance armstrong for years basically calling you all liers, daring to blow the whistle, daring to defame him. is his confession good enough
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for you? >> no. no. it was never going to be about a confession. i think the confession now is really just the starting point for him to help the sport of cycling. there are a lot of people out there who are still lying. there is his former doctor, his former team director, these guys are still perpetrating the lies that -- and deception that lance ruled over, and lance holds the keys. he wants his control back. and he desperately wants to be liked by the american public. and you can't have it all. so there are people who are going to have to get taken down. and lance does have the ability to do that. so right now, and i think that the oprah interview was in part to position himself, it always has been about a numbers game for lance and his agent, bill stapleton, they put that out
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there to see what their options are, and what types of deals they can make, whether it is with the department of justice, or -- >> okay. >> yeah. go ahead. >> just to be clear, you throw out the name of a doctor and someone else and this is what you're saying. we can't confirm that whatsoever. but let me just end on -- are you worried at all that people talk about the magic touch of oprah, that oprah will let him off the hook, that this will be have and it's over? >> i think that oprah is, you know, went down lance's hole with a crow bar and helped him turn around. it is going to be up to lance to climb out of that hole now. and i just -- who knows? who knows? we'll have to see. >> we will have to see. airs on thursday. paul willerton, thank you. >> thanks. brazen child abduction, caught on camera.
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she is just 5 years old. but she escaped a situation many grown-ups probably couldn't handle here. this philadelphia girl seen in this surveillance video apparently escaped from her kidnapper. police say it is the woman, watch her back again. see the woman there, dressed in black? that is who picked up this little girl, right out of her kindergarten class, brian elementary school, yesterday morning. now, a philadelphia school spokesperson admits it was a substitute teacher in this class, admits this substitute teacher, who didn't let the girl
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go, who let the girl go, i should say, did not follow the right protocol. the spokesman said this to cnn, quote, it is disturbing that an adult is able to walk into a classroom, and have the teacher release the child without knowing who the adult is. police say the woman knew the child's name. >> it would appear that this was not a random act, that, in fact, this child was targeted. and there is a number of, you know, indications of that, and that is that the mother -- or the woman that came into that school kind of knew exactly what to do. >> i have no idea why someone would come and pretend to be her mother and take her. >> the school realized something was very wrong when a day care worker came to pick this little girl up and she wasn't there. and then just before sunrise today, investigators say a passerby found her alive in a playground. they say she was just wearing a
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t-shirt, nothing else, at this playground in upper darby, a town that borders vif s philad. cnn is choosing not to identify this 5-year-old because investigators are trying to figure out if she was sexually assaulted. on the phone with me now is superintendent of upper darby police, michael chitwood. superintendent, welcome to you. first things first, how is this little girl, how are her parents? >> to my knowledge the little girl is fine. she was treated at the hospital. she was released. she's being questioned by forensic people, child advocates, child workers, child youth service workers, and hopefully a little more information will be forth coming about exactly what happened to her, and while she was being held captive. >> take me back to early this morning, i saw somewhere around 4:40 a.m., she was heard crying
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on a playground by someone who happened to be passing by. what happened? >> there was a gentleman that lives in our township who was walking up to the transportation center to get a train that he does every day to go to work. and as he's walking on 69th street, past an athletic field, he hears crying, help me, help me, of a little girl. he stops, he looks and he sees underneath the sliding board what appears to be a little girl. and he yells for her, and she yells for him, help me, help me. she comes out from the sliding board and comes over to him. and he notices that she is attired only in a black t-shirt. and no underwear, no pants, no shoes or socks. and he grabs her and he said,
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where are your clothes? and she just said to him, i ran away, i ran away. and he asked her her name, she said her last name, and he grabbed the little girl and just had a heavier coat on and put her in his coat and dialed 911, police arrived and when the first officers on the scene they identified her as the little girl that had been abducted the day before in philadelphia. >> that is chilling. and the words she used, i understand, superintendent, the words she used, she said i was stolen, i was stolen. >> yeah, words to that effect. he said, well what do you need? she said, i'm cold, i'm cold, and i got to pee. so we immediately transported her to a children's hospital in philadelphia. >> still, you have no idea who this woman, this abductor is at all? >> no, at this point in time i don't believe they do. you can see the photo, the only thing you see is her eyes.
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obviously from my perspective the little girl apparently had to be dropped off into that playground because there is a fence around there. there is no way she would have gotten in there unless somebody actually lifted her over the fence and put her in there. and, again, we didn't question her at all. we just transported her right to the hospital, just to make sure she was safe and that there were no injuries to her. so that was our role. obviously the investigation is being handled by -- by philadelphia. >> right, no, i know she was just wearing a t-shirt, so they're just checking to see if she was abused in any which way. here is hoping she was not. michael chitwood, we'll stay on the story with you and philadelphia police. michael chitwood, upper darby police department. thank you, sir. >> thank you. just moments ago, a major announcement from facebook on something new that is unveiling. nope, not a phone. we'll find out what the hype is all about today.
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search. it allows users to filter through their friends' information. that's important. it is not new. it is photos, things they like, more efficiently, people, places, things like that. it is not a traditional web search. for example, if you and i were facebook friends, which we might be, i can type in co-workers of mine who live in atlanta and you would show up in the search. so it is not a new kind of search. but only if we're already friends and have shared information together. facebook says no changes to privacy settings are required. they're well aware of the issue of privacy. graph search acts on information you already have access to. the question is, you know, did it live up to the hype? i don't think it really did. as you mentioned, we're really looking for more like a phone. and facebook shares have been steadily rising in anticipation of this event. over the last three months they have been up about 60% and today, at the announcement, they were back and forth all over the place. at last check, about 10 minutes ago, they were down 2 1/2%.
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during the treatment. scott battled cancer in 2007 and again in 2011. no word on where the new cancer was discovered. hides a message. >> he did this himself in his own blood? >> is it possible? >> a code. >> this is the message. your grandfather left you. >> he left us. >> only he can break. >> what is that? >> if you've been suffering withdrawals from mystery and intrigue, the novelist dan brown, relief is on the way. the da vinci code's author's latest release, simply entitled "inferno" is set to hit book shelves on may 14th. the novel will feature the return of renowned harvard symbologist robert lang dodone,t in italy. a top european court ruled a british woman suffered religious discrimination when british airways told her not to wear a cross over her uniform at work. nadia awada was sent home, then
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offered another position when she refused to hide her cross. she says it all came down to fairness. >> because why should i be made to feel ashamed for wearing my cross, being told off for exercising what i thought was a civil liberty of manifesting my faith, my faith, by wearing the christian cross and other colleagues around me expressing their faith with wearing hijabs, why so me? >> we should note the court's ruling is not legally binding in britain. but the country is legally obligated to take it into account, they say. president's inauguration starts in five days. along with security and staff, do you know who else is preparing? cell phone providers. just think of all the tweets and the instagrams and phone calls happening this weekend in washington, putting up extra cell towers around the national
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mall, adding power to the ones already there to handle said calls and phone calls and videos that people will no doubt be sending, including myself. be sure to watch cnn for the two-day event. live coverage of the inauguration begins sunday at 9:00 a.m. eastern. president obama's pick for defense secretary just got a huge endorsement. democratic senator chuck schumer says he supports chuck hagel after a 90-minute meeting at the white house. critics, though, blasting some of hagel's past comments including the one in which hagel said, quote, the jewish lobby has intimidated lawmakers on israel. schumer, who is jewish, says he will vote for hagel's confirmation after hagel clarified his remarks. venezuela's vice president expected to deliver a state of the nation speech today. standing in for president hugo chavez who is still in cuba, recovering, continuing to get
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those cancer treatments. but a lot of venezuelans are just focused on finding everyday essentials, talking about eggs and flour, even toilet paper, very tough to come by, in many stores in venezuela right now. alejandra ora joins me. >> the central bank reported that the shortage increased at the fastest pace in the last three years after president chavez announced he was going to travel to cuba to get cancer treatment. however, it is important to emphasize that president chavez has yet to come back to venezuela after the treatment and has not been seen in public since december 9th. after his announcement, the prices have skyrocketed. i think it is about an increase of 5.7%, only in the month of december, and in 2012, it is 20.1%. >> why? who is raising the prices? how can they do that? are there checks and balances? >> the government and the private companies are blaming each other. venezuela is pointing fingers
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everywhere. we have the government that is blaming the private companies of hoarding the products to destabilize the country and possibly provoke a coup because of what is happening. >> a coup? >> yes. but then we have the private companies in the position that are blaming the government for not providing a stable capital control and limiting the dollars to venezuelans and other companies so they could purchase out of venezuela. >> is this nationwide? is this just caracas? >> it is mostly happening in caracas, but it is also throughout the whole country. it has a lot to do with inflation. but also there is something we have to talk about which is the price regulation that the government created last year. let me show you an example. talk about milk production. milk producers, they can only receive 3.6, equal to 84 cents, where leader once selling their milk. however, the cost of production, it is 4.13. which is 96 cents. so on average milk producers
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lose 12 to 13 cents every time they sell something. so you do the math. they don't want to keep making food. >> what about these -- what are they called, arapas? >> yes. our national dish. >> what is that? >> it is basically a flour tortilla, made with a flour that was created in venezuela and it is the national dish of venezuela, often out of sfok ton the supermarkets. they have to limit the purchases. so a household is only allowed to buy two bags of the flour per day, or per week. and they don't do it, they're going to get a sanction. but each bag is approximately $10 to $13. you could get exactly the same flour in the united states here in any supermarket for under $3. so now the national dish is one of the most expensive ones in the country and pretty hard to find. >> so this will continue on and we just don't know how long and people are hurting and paying way too much it sounds like for all these things.
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thank you so much for telling us what is happening now in venezuela. coming up next, we're going to look at what is to come over the president's next four years, including whether he targets wall street. speaking of, let's take a quick look at the dow. there is the outside of the -- let's look at the numbers. here we go. it is down seven points as i cheat and look at the big board. seven points at 13,499. you can always check the latest numbers. go to [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense.
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when president obama stepped into office, he faced a global financial crisis. when term number two begins, his next battle will be making sure another financial meltdown doesn't happen. alison kosik has more. >> reporter: the challenge, prevent another meltdown to the financial system. how? reform the way wall street does business. but the debate over wall street reform comes down to paperwork. regulation. president obama wants a lot of it. he says we need new rules and regulations put in place during his first term to hold wall street and the big banks accountable and protect consumer and the u.s. economy. >> after all we have been through, i don't believe that rolling back regulations on wall street will help the small businesswoman expand or the laid
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off construction worker keep his home. >> reporter: republicans in congress want to cut obama era and even bush era regulations which they dismiss as unnecessary red tape. two laws are at issue here. dodd-frank and sarbanes-oxley. dodd-frank is the signature financial reform of president obama's first term. it set up the consumer financial protection bureau to write new rules to prevent fraud and unfair lending practices and put limits on banks deemed too big to fail by monitoring threats and stopping another financial crisis. sarbanes-oxley was a response to a different crisis, the enron accounting scandal of the early 2000s. it set up stricter accounting rules for companies of all sizes. critics say it drives up costs for smaller businesses and restricts growth. what does it mean for small businesss? for the big banks? well, we spoke to a community banker here in new york city. he works with small businesses lending them money. he also deals with regulators. >> the political wording is a different story.
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but at the end of the day, when we sit down on the table, and try to refine and define a bill, and bring it forward, there is a lot of agreement between the two sides. it is just a question if we believe that if you don't bring back business, by lending them money, it is not going to happen. the economy will not change. >> reporter: on the other hand, krause agrees small businesses need to be treated differently. >> you can't apply the tisame rules to a megacompany that you apply it a small company. there has to be a balanced kind of focus, which would help smaller entities of smaller financial institutions to save costs. >> reporter: it's true. regulations cost time and money and smaller businesses have less of both to spend. president obama wants time for his reforms to take full effect and for the cfpb to continue writing rules and protecting consumers. republicans are opposed on ideological grounds. they want to streamline
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government, not create more bureaucracy to police business. with obama's election to a second term, the president has the upper hand for now. alison kosik, cnn, new york. >> alison, thank you. two brothers about to go blind decide to end their lives together. and what doctors do next stirring up the debate over the right to die. hala gorani will join me, tell the story, and the fallout now worldwide. ur weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have six grams of sugars. with fifteen grams of protein to help manage hunger... look who's getting smart about her weight. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes.
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in belgium, identical twin brothers born deaf find out they're going blind at the age of 45. not willing to spend their lives without hearing and without seeing, mark and eddie tell their doctors they want to die. and you know what, their doctors agree. and after saying good-bye to one another, both men are given lethal injections. keep in mind here in the u.s., even in extreme cases, euthanasia is highly divisive. in 2001, this gallup poll here found that doctor assisted suicide was the most controversial of all social issues, dividing the country more than the issue of abortion. you see the numbers. 48% say it's morally wrong. 45% say it's morally acceptable. montana, oregon, and washington state are the only states in the country that permit some form of
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doctor-assisted suicide. but in belgium, doctor-assisted suicide is not uncommon. in fact, it is one of several countries where euthanasia is legal. hala gorani joins me. when you read about this story, and we were talking at commercial break, they're not in pain, they're not dying, in fact, the brother, the family knew this decision, the brother came out and talked about why they chose to end their lives, what did he say? >> well, basically they are twins, 45, you mentioned they were born deaf. and the distress they said they would feel not to be able to see each other, not to be able to hear each other, would cause them the kind of insufferable pain they weren't willing to live with. >> and the family understood that. >> the family understood it. and a doctor administered a lethal injection and euthanized the 45-year-old men who as you said were not in pain, were not dying. talk about a divisive issue here, euthanasia, even when a patient is going through pain, people will argue give them pain
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medication. it is not our right as caregivers or as doctors who have taken the hippocratic oath to administer lethal injections and kill their patients. and this case it happened on december 14th in belgium where euthanasia is legal. >> it is legal. we looked further to find the requirements. there are requirements. patient must be an adult. patient must be capable of making a judgment. wish to die must be voluntary, overwhelming and repeated. now apparently lawmakers in belgium are expanding those rules to potentially include children. >> right. and this has been legal since 2002. you're talking about euthanasia in belgium. yes, this is a question. because, look, obviously the quality of life when you're deaf and blind is very much reduced. you have to adapt, but some people reacted online and also as a result of this story, for instance, a canadian, 33-year-old, partially blind activist with ushers syndrome said she was able to regain some
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form of quality of life by using tactile sign language. >> she could turn her life around. >> she could turn her life around. i do think that in the case of these twins, perhaps, the idea was that people who live, have lived together their whole lives, they were cobblers, and at this point say my life without my other half will become intolerable, not being able to hear, not being able to see, they made their case, their family understood, and a doctor was willing to administer lethal injection. >> what a story. let us know what you think about it. we're both on twitter. be curious to see what people think. hala, thank you very much. critics here, critics are fired up over coca-cola's new obesity ad saying it is too much, too soon, the ad could hurt coca-cola's brand. but my next guest says not so fast. he says coke didn't have a choice to release the ad. find out why next. [ loud party sounds ]
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coca-cola launched a new ad campaign. it is unlike anything you've seen before. look. >> for over 125 years, we have been bringing people together. today we would like people to come together on something that concerns all of us. obesity. the long-term health of our families, and the countries at stake. as the nation's leading beverage company, we can play an
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important role. >> you heard right. coca-cola using the o word, obesity. for years the iconic brand has been a lightning rod for health advocates who singled out sugary soft drinkz s as a primary caus of obesity. coca-cola says, hey, not the problem. cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta is here. and we also have peter shankman here, who is going to talk mor d ed er ha advertising and the pr of all of this. why did they do this? are they feeling the heat? >> probably a little bit. i think that's got to be part of it. you're hearing it from the mayor of new york, a lot of people are quick to point to sugary drinks and say, this is a large part of the problem. and not only just sugary drin y, coke a lot, you don't hear as much about the other manufacturers of the sugary drinks. >> let's talk sugar.
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see the sugar you have here? >> most people you ask them off the top, how many calories are in a can of sugary coke, most people don't really know the answer. it is 140 calories, that's the amount, facts are important here. nine tea spoons, nine tea spoons of sugar. it is a fair amount when you look at it like that. but, again, this is -- this is what has been around for some time. so sort of looking at the same product with a little bit of a different lens. >> peter shankman what is this? damage control for coca-cola? >> it is. they're trying to get out in front of a problem. if you can think that one day the product would be likened to cigarettes, it is amazing. this is what happens when bloomberg, the mayor of new york, said we're banning super large sized soft drinks because they do impact obesity, which they do. coca-cola is taking that pree t preemptive step and saying we have 350 types of drinks and 180 of them are dietetic. they're throwing the ball back in the consumer's court, we make
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regular coke but we also make diet coke and water. giving those options and getting ahead of it and saying we have options. >> on the point, on the diet soft drinks, are those okay as well? people talk about the fake sugar and everything else in there? >> there is five different fda approved artificial sweeteners. some have been around longer than others. there are a couple of natural sweeteners which i think are gaining a lot of attention as well. more expensive. but i think for adults for the most part, they're safe there has been studies done. a cancer concern some time ago. don't think that's a real scientific concern now. but let me say, one other thing about this whole point, they're also getting out in front and saying, look, let's look at how our consumption of sugary drinks has -- >> it has gone down. >> but obesity has gone up. some of this is damage control, some of this is saying let's look at over the last 30, 40 years what happened in this country. >> people are drinking less of the stuff, but getting larger. >> yes. it makes a couple of points.
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one is that there is a lot of sugar in our diets. some from sugar drinks and we absorb this faster than any other sugar source, like fruit or anything else, but we get sugar in a lot of other foods. we get it in breads, sauces, places that are considered hidden sources of sugar. so if you watch that ad carefully, which i did, there is a couple of different messages in there that i think they're trying to get across. >> peter shankman, back to you. you hear from folks who are very critical of coca-cola, cspi for one example, they're saying center for science and the public interest, the soda industry is under siege and for good reason. the new advertising campaign not a meaningful contribution toward addressing obesity, but i wanted to pull some of the numbers when it comes to u. profits, right? coca-cola, highly profitable, 48.2 billion last year, this year. $50 billion. so really under siege? >> well, they're not under siege per se. they're not going bankrupt over this. coca-cola makes a lot of sugary drinks, so does pepsi and
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everyone else but they're not the only culprit in this war. this is a world we live in, mcdonald's and wendy's and fast food. you go and order a diet coke to go with your double big mac and extra large fries, it doesn't make that much of a difference. to single out coca-cola, was it smart of coke to do this, they're taking the first step, is there a lot of work to be done? without question. >> you mentioned pepsi. it was about beyonce a big deal with pepsi. >> she's getting heat about this. >> she is. >> heat coming down. >> do you think that's fair. health advocates saying giving some of the proceeds, if you're hawking this company, pepsi, give some of it to diabetes research. >> she's not making $50 million out of it. it is not like they're writing her a check that she's going to go donate. would it be a bad thing for her to do some diabetes related psa spots? it would be a good thing. but keep in mind, no one is going to complain about the pepsi halftime show when she's up on stage shaking and singing. there is middle ground there. >> peter shankman, dr. gupta,
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thank you very much. >> thank you. >> good chat. thanks, guys. still ahead, a fatal attraction murder, trial in arizona. newly released interrogation tapes poking major holes in the defendant's story. we're on that case. plus, 18 human heads found in chicago's o'hare airport. that's all you get. that story is next. pack your bags, we'll leave tonight. uhh, it's next month, actually... eddie continues singing: to tickets to... paradiiiiiise! no four. remember? whoooa whooaa whooo! you know ronny, folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. and how happy are they jimmy? happier than eddie money running a travel agency. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.
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a gruesome find in chicago's o'hare airport.
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18 human heads. the medical examiner's office says the severed heads which were wrapped in plastic arrived from italy. they say the heads were bound for a research facility, that it was a mix-up in paperwork in delaying the shipment's final delivery. police are rolli inruling out f. hour two, i'm brooke baldwin. top of the hour here. oprah winfrey has called it the biggest interview she has ever done. sitting down with the man who was once called america's greatest sporting hero, now she says an admitted drug cheat. earlier in the show, i talked to a former teammate of lance armstrong's, asked him what he thinks about this confession. >> it is not a very large community. a lot of -- a lot of us tried to tell the story to the world over a decade ago, and the ones who did just got annihilated by lance armstrong. i think that oprah is, you know,
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went down in lance's hole with a crow bar and helped him turn around. it is going to be up to lance to climb out of that hole now. >> armstrong's been denying claims of doping for years. in 2005, made this claim, under oath, while giving a deposition in a lawsuit he had filed against a dallas-based insurer. here he was. >> you have never taken any performance enhancing drug in connection with your cycling career? >> correct. >> and that would include any substance that has ever been banned? is that fair to say? >> correct. >> looks a lot like perjury, but because of the statute of limitations, more than three years has gone by, any chance of punishment in that regard has expired. i'm joined by contributor of outside magazine, brian alexander. welcome. straight up with me, has language armstrong's doping, has it hurt the sport of cycling? >> the sport of cycling was hurt long before these revelations came out from the u.s.
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anti-doping agency. it is well known within the sport, and among aficionados of the sport that doping has been rife for the -- at least the last 20 years. >> the last 20 years. and now, here we have lance armstrong, this confession, and in his fame, of course, came from more than just his cycling. he was cancer survivor, a hero for his work with livestrong. we know he went to the headquarters yesterday, personally apologized to them. but will his cancer battle make the public forgiveness easier, do you think? >> you know, i don't think so. i think the statement from your last guest is what is really going to be the hurdle that lance faces going forward. and that is that armstrong literally tried to destroy people who were starting to talk about doping on his team and on other teams. he really went after people personally and i think that's going to be a problem that he's not going to be able to overcome very easily. >> yeah, i straight up asked my guest who rode with him in '92
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if he juiced. he said, no, but he had a bunch of friends that were forced into, as they say, forced into doping or they would be kick ed off the team. let me throw this at you. why is armstrong doing this now? the timing of this, is that significant? even oprah says she didn't really get a clearancer to than that. listen to this. >> i asked that question and i'm not sure i have the answer to that question, why he wanted to do it now. i specifically asked that question. i think he was just -- he was just ready. i think the velocity of everything that has come at him in the past several months and particularly in the past several weeks he was just ready. >> what do you make of the timing? any significance about timing? >> that, i have to say, that's a little bit of a mystery to me too. i wrote a story last year for "outside" magazine where i consulted with a number of legal experts who said armstrong would be foolish to talk. i had an outing the other night
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with some lawyers who are very knowledge nabl this fieable in . they said armstrong would be an idiot to say anything. i'm not sure what is motivating. i'm not sure i buy the idea that armstrong really wants to run triathlons and that's why he's going to do it. i think there is something else, maybe something deeply personal that maybe he wants some sort of public redemption. i honestly don't know. i don't think we're really going to find out here for some time, because frankly it is a mystery to me too. >> you talk about public redemption. you talk to the cyclists, many of whom i'm sure you are intimately familiar with, they're furious. i talk to paul willerton, a teammate, he said he moved past the anger, like phases. he's moved past the anger. other people are furious. he says lance armstrong needs to personally apologize to some of these guys. who, brian, do you think should be most furious over this? >> well, you know, there are a couple of people. there are so many people that i
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have spoken to, a woman by the name of bessey andreu who has been vilvilified, called all so of names, crazy and insane. the former team operator emma o'reilly, an irish woman, who i spoke to, who he really went after, tried to sue personally, tried to ruin her life. there are a number of people. whether or not they would be willing to accept a personal apology, after all the water that has gone under the bridge, i don't know. i think there is a kind of sort of sigh of relief among some of those people, but i also think a lot of those people are sort of now that it is out, we're done with armstrong, and frankly we don't care about him anymore ever. >> ever. ever you say. >> the depth of -- the depth of hatred for armstrong within that small community of cyclists who were affected by him is really deep. as far as the general american
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public is concerned, that may be a different story. >> that's something else entirely. brian alexander "outside" magazine, thank you. >> thank you. developing this hour, the white house is saying tomorrow is the day for the president's gun control package. chief white house correspondent jessica yellin just a short time ago talking to me saying, yes, it will include some sort of assault weapons ban, but just to be precise, this is a proposal the president, as you know, can't do this by himself, can't do a ban alone. he needs congress. and here is the white house spokesman jay carney on that. >> the president will take a comprehensive approach. but it is a simple fact that there are limits on what can be done within existing law, and congress has to act on the kinds of measures that we already mentioned because the power to do that is reserved by congress and to congress. >> jessica yellin also telling us this gun violence package
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will include proposals on high capacity magazines on background checks, gun swaps, mental health issues there. we'll look for those details officially coming out tomorrow. meantime, miguel marquez is in vegas today. this is the scene of the biggest world's biggest gun show, being held as we speak. miguel, we have heard about the surge in gun sales. do the gun owners, do the gun makers believe this time that it is real, that this gun control push? >> reporter: if sales -- existing sales are any indication, they certainly believe it. some gun manufacturers are saying it is as long as two years to wait for one of those ar-15s. there are several manufacturers who make those guns and every gun owner we talked to who is going to the show here in vegas says that they can't keep them in stock. these ar-15s made by a range of manufacturers, retail for anywhere from $1100, $1200, up to $2,000 a copy for each one
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and can't keep them in their stores. i talked to one guy out of indiana, who said he had 17 of the weapons and sold them in 36 hours. he had 2100 high capacity magazines, sold them in 24 hours. and we're hearing that same theme for retailers across the spectrum. manufacturers, retailers watching very closely what the president will say tomorrow. gun owners, they're concerned, they seem to be hoarding a lot of ammunition, the 223 rounds and the ar-15s. but sport shooter and others are not as concerned. they don't think it will affect them as much. there is a lot of focus on what the president will say tomorrow and how this is all going to play out. it is -- there is a lot of worry in vegas among gun owners, manufacturers, retailers, about what is going to be proposed poem. >> talking of gun owners, the nra has seen what the organization is calling an unprecedented spike in membership numbers over the past month. this is according to the group's spokesman, 250,000 people have joined this organization here
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since this whole -- all the talk of gun control began. just give me some color. have you been on the inside of this show? what is it like? right there on the strip, right? >> reporter: it is at the sands right up the street from where we are. cnn could not get into the show. they had to close off the number of press that got in at 2,000. they said they had to turn away over 700 members of the press. there is not a lot of cameras -- allowed inside the show itself. it is a massive room with gun manufacturers, retailers, it is all trade, only trade. so there is no just individuals walking in off the street in order to get into the show. it is -- they bill it the largest show of this kind in the world. so people from around the world literally have descended on vegas this week to talk guns, to make deals, and to figure out where the gun industry is going. one thing a lot of folks are telling us, as we see on streets of vegas, though, is they can't
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figure out where their business goes from here. they want to grow their business, do other things, want to open a shooting range. they're not quite sure how they can move ahead until they know what the president comes out with tomorrow. >> again, the plan will be unveiled tomorrow at the white house. miguel marquez for us in las vegas. miguel, thank you. gun control advocates take their message directly to one of the biggest gun sellers in the country, walmart. this is walmart, people standing in front of a walmart. this is a walmart in danbury, connecticut, next door to newtown, where 20 children and 6 adults were shot and killed one month ago yesterday. and one of the people present today was a woman by the name of pam simon. she was wounded back in the tucson shooting that almost killed congresswoman gabrielle giffords. and with guns and ammunition sold in stores all over the can country, simon had a personal reason to single out walmart. >> bullets that were shot in my chest came from a walmart. and they were purchased very
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easily, much more easily than you can buy sudafed or spray can, cans of paint. so it just makes sense that maybe we need to rethink this, and really it is -- it is a family-friendly store. it is not a place for assault rifles. there is no place in our society for assault rifles. >> the protesters outside that store delivered a petition with nearly 300,000 signatures asking walmart to stop selling assault weapons. meantime, new york state is taking action on guns. the state assembly there is considering a restrictive new measure this afternoon that would ban assault weapons, and magazines that hold more than 7 bullets. it is also designed to make it easier to keep guns away from the mentally ill. new york's governor andrew cuomo says voters are ready, they are ready for lawmakers there to do their part. >> this is a scourge on society. people had to live through these
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tragedies, tragedy, after tragedy, after tragedy. at what point do we get it? >> the bill passed the new york state senate last night by a wide margin. if passed by the entire assembly it will become law as soon as it is signed by the governor. leon panetta says the u.s. is getting involved in mali, as violence there is spiraling out of control. but, really, how far is america willing to go? i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. nude pictures, a palm print, and a denial. why interrogation tapes poke holes in this murder defendant's story. plus, critics pounce on coca-cola's new obesity ad. how scared is one of the world's most popular brands about soda bans? and reports suggest the owner of the new york knick used
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an update on the death penalty murder trial. look with me. if this woman here looks familiar this is jodi arias, jodi arias accused of brutally slaying her boyfriend, an alleged fatal attraction. stand by here. we're about to view part of a four and a half year old interrogation, just revealed in public yesterday. this seems to have been where arias learned that police had photographs of herself and the victim, travis alexander, taken the day of the killing.
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and that's important. why is that important? because arias now contends she shot and stabbed alexander, stabbed him 27 times, in self-defense. where as before she learned that police had the pictures, she said she wasn't even there, never saw him the day of the killing. let's listen. >> were you in travis' house? >> absolutely not. i was nowhere near mesa. nowhere near phoenix. i wasn't even close to him. >> what if i could show you proof that you were there? would that change your mind? >> i wasn't there. >> be honest with me. >> i was not at travis' house. i was not. >> you were at travis' house. if you want, i can show you
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pictures of him. do you want to see pictures of him? >> part of me does and part of me doesn't. >> why? because you don't want to remember? >> no, because -- >> jodi. >> there is a morbid curiosity. i want to know how he died. >> we can keep playing these games over and over, and i'm not going to believe you. your blood is in the house. mixed with his. mixed. not on the side. but mixed. your hair is there with blood. and your palm print is there in blood. it's over. >> i'm not, like, i'm not a murderer, but if i were to do that, i would wear gloves or, you know, something. i just -- i don't know. >> i know you tried to get some of the blood off, tried to clean
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him off. you're even denying the pictures. of you being there. there is pictures of you laying on the bed in pig tails. >> pig tails? >> yes. >> the arias trial continues today. state of arizona plans to pursue the death penalty should she be convicted. the north african country of mali probably not the first place you would think of when you think of al qaeda. the government of mali is now under siege, right now, from islamist militants and france has deployed just about a thousand troops on the ground there. the u.s. has promised to help. but how far will america go there? her one just like that. right in the old bucket. good toss! see that's much better! that was good. you had your shoulder pointed, you kept your eyes on your target. let's do it again -- watch me. just like that one... [ male announcer ] the durability of the volkswagen passat. pass down something he will be grateful for.
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for the very same reason that the united states has gotten involved in situations s this is mali. the reason, to stop al qaeda. here's what secretary of defense leon panetta said just yesterday. here you go. we have a responsibility to go after al qaeda wherever they are. we have a responsibility to make sure that al qaeda does not establish a base for operations in north africa and mali, end quote. a rebel group has been aligning with al qaeda to try to take over the government here and they have been gaining territory. we mentioned france. this is why france entered the conflict, putting up to 800 troops on the ground to keep the capital city from rebel control. the united states plans to assist french operations and here's one more reason why you should watch what is happening in mali, and the developments
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there. because more of your tax dollars may be going there. >> the funding mechanism for the u.n. mission is still being worked out, but we are assuming that the u.s. will be asked to contribute significantly as we did to the somalia operation. to get a jump on that, we're using some of our existing funding that we already have in the budget and will be going to the congress for additional funding over the coming days. >> chris lawrence, let me go to you, at the pentagon, because you're our pentagon correspondent, i should say. the u.s. will not be sending in ground troops, so how exactly will our military help in mali? >> well, brooke, they're considering sending big air force cargo planes to get more french troops and heavy equipment, vehicles, into the fight there. also considering putting up more drones and spy planes to get a better sense of what is happening on the ground.
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and they may be sending some aerial refueling craft so those french jets can refuel while they're in the air and do more sustained longer missions. >> why not boots on the ground? >> short answer, mali is a mess in a lot of ways. the u.s. still has 66,000 troops in afghanistan that they're trying to draw down. and the u.s. special forces trained some of the mali army soldiers, trained them how to shoot, taught them how to kill, gather intel. one of the mali commanders came to the united states several times to get training and then they defected. went over to the other side. they were supposed to help bolster the government. instead, they were the ones leading the coup. >> you say mali is a mess. there has to be some kind of concern, chris, that al qaeda fighters could launch an attack on the u.s. >> they don't think that concern is today. what they're worried about is tomorrow. listen to what analysts say who studied this part of africa
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extensively. >> this is the big fear driving france that is driving the united states, that it becomes a magnet for jihadist groups worldwide, that they may link up with groups and disenfranchised youth in nigeria and western africa and even as far as somalia and al shabab. s >> they didn't think the rebels would take the territory they did. the long-term concern is that it becomes sort of a pot where all of these elements from all over start to gather and if that area then became a safe haven, it could be used to launch attacks down the road. that's why this sort of strike now to try to cut that off at the pass, brooke. >> pentagon correspondent chris lawrence. chris, appreciate it. coca-cola releasing a new ad campaign calling obesity quote/unquote the issue of this generation. my next guest here says wait a minute, he thinks coke is going into damage control mode. don't miss that conversation.
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than there has ever been before. it was the ninth or tenth depending warmest year on record globally. a brand-new news conference that just came out. nasa and noaa got together and said what do we think? what is going on here? we know it is carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, more parts per million than ever before. it has not the warmest on record, why is it just keeps going up, the deniers? if it keeps going up, why isn't the warmest, why not the tenth warmest? there may be particles in the air from the china fires we'll show you in a second, blocking some of that out. it is the warmest decade on record and the decades on average are going up and up and up and it was the warmest on record for a la nina year. and so that's what the map looks like. just red and orange, everywhere it is orange or not blue that is warmer than normal for this time period. >> you bring up china. we have been reporting on the mess we have seen in china and all the air pollution, right? aren't the air pollution levels in china, look at these
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pictures. you can't even see the buildings. the pollution levels in china off the charts. in the u.s., we're trying to make cleaner cars and adopting other measures to help, but we're not the only ones. >> talking about beijing, and also a lot of eastern china. this is an area, the world health organization says if you have particulate matter in the air greater than 25 parts per million, you should stay inside. >> that's why people are wearing masks. >> beijing had 870 parts per million. when 25 is the alarm, there are 870. they're so far past the alarm, this was because the weather pattern didn't blow this dust smoke particle stuff away. but so what if it blows it away, it blows it somewhere else. it is still in the atmosphere. they had a very bad couple of days in beijing over the past couple of days. >> i can't believe the pictures in china. gosh. you think l.a. and new york are bad. chad myers, thank you. now this.
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bottom of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. we have to talk about this new ad from coca-cola, this new coca-cola ad getting all kinds of attention, basically the crux of the message is that obesity in america is a complex issue, it concerns everyone, and the ad also says all calories count, whether they come from sugary fruits, drinks, vegetables, the center for science and the public interest, cspi, is not at all impressed by the new coca-cola ad. this group is a consumer advocacy organization for better public health and nutrition. and i want to welcome michael jacobson, executive director of the cspi. welcome to you. good to have you on. >> thanks very much for having me. >> it seems like one perspective, michael, coke is stepping up, acknowledging this obesity issue, what does your group have -- what is the problem with this? >> well, i think this is just a typical pr campaign from a
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beleaguered company. the basic issue for coke is that sales of coca-cola have been declining for the last ten years or so. the company is being attacked from all different directions. scientists who are doing studies showing that beverages are more conducive to weight gain than solid foods. that schools are throwing out high calorie drinks. diet doctors are saying whatever you do, avoid full calorie soft drinks. we have asked the fda for warning labels. state legislators are saying, let's put excise taxes on. and they feel they have to do something. >> obesity rates are on the increase, soda consumption is on the decrease. i was talking to sanjay gupta, he said overall we're just eating more.
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but, look, coke is doing pretty well. i read a quote where you were saying the soda industry is under siege, but reading -- what was a reading, business week, business week says coke raked in $48 billion in profits last year and they're thinking it will be $50 billion this year. do you think they're under the attack. they seem to be doing pretty well. >> well, they may be doing pretty well, but they're doing much better overseas than they are in the united states. and -- but they see a decaying business. all the criticism is repositioning soft drinks from fun and happiness to disease and death. that's not a good place for industry to be. >> so what do you want from coke? because obviously they want to make money. they sell all kinds of things. short of stopping selling these sugary drinks, is there anything they can do to make a group like yours happy? >> yes. there are a number of things. soft drinks are different from cigarettes and guns.
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those products are totally -- there is no way to make them harmless. but soft drinks, coca-cola for one, could cut the calories from all of their beverages. they he could mix a little bit of sugar with a little bit of an artificial sweetener and dramatically lower the calorie content. >> they would say they have diet drinks. >> that's right. they do. but we still have a huge obesity problem. that hasn't been sufficient. i think industry has to do more. government needs to step in and do more. and people, you know. we have got to take more responsibility also. i do believe in the personal responsibility, but when you have a company like coca-cola, that spends $2 billion a year marketing its sugary drinks in this country, that's a huge pressure to make people think this is a great product, no problems with it, drink away. >> okay. and that is -- that's not what you would like them to say.
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michael jacobson, cspi, thank you. we appreciate you coming on. a quick heads up to all of you, ali velshi will be interviewing the ceo of coca-cola this weekend, asking him about this ad on your money. watch out for that. a little breaking news come in to me. we are getting word as we look at the pictures together for the first time, we're getting word of a shooting at a college in missouri. we are told the suspect is in custody. no word yet whether anyone's been hurt. this is all happening at the stevens institute of business and arts in st. louis. we're making calls, getting more information. more on this in just a moment. ♪ [ male announcer ] born from the elements, destined to take them over. ♪ the sirius xm satellite radio in the 2013 ram 1500.
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i'm ali velshi this is your money. the u.s. could get its credit rating downgraded again. holiday sales weren't as bad as we expected them to be, but there is a catch. and dell could be ready to go private. let's start with credit. ratings agency fitch warns that washington's dysfunction could cost the u.s. the aaa credit rating it still has with them. that is if congress doesn't come up with what it calls a credible medium term deficit reduction plan. understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march.
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now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current war of words between president obama and republicans in congress. what happens if we get downgraded? it happened before. remember 2011, when standard & poor's did it. that hit markets and the wider economy hard, but it didn't cause interest rates to increase. this time could be different, however, because the rest of the world is getting its act together. even successful businesses like ford are worried. here's what ceo alan mulally told me today. >> i think the most important thing to your point is that we come together around a solution that allows us to live within our means, to reduce our budget deficits, and also to deal with our trade deficits, and create an environment where the businesses can grow in the united states. the most important thing is we come together with a comprehensive solution, not just working one piece or the other, but a comprehensive solution where we can start to grow the economy again for everybody. >> but the order in which we do things matters. first, raise the debt ceiling, allowing america to pay for its bills that it already racked up.
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then come up with a longer term plan that could put us back in fiscal good health. america's ability to meet its obligations should not be held hostage to an agreement on spending cuts. retail sales went up by half a percentage in december. cars saw the biggest gain, jumping 1.8% at dealerships. other stores that see sales go up during the holiday season, like clothing and electronics, barely saw gains. while sales are expected to increase in 2013, it is slow going for now. for one thing, americans are getting a little less in their paycheck, now that the payroll tax holiday has ended. and a little less money means a little less shopping for now. dude, did you hear about dell? shares of the computermaker jumped 15% in the last two days after a bloomberg report said that it is in buyout talks with a couple of private equity firms. the company founded in ceo michael dell's dorm room in texas in the '80s has been struggling lately as pc sales
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drop off. going private would allow dell to concentrate on new opportunities like mobile computing and other areas without seeking approval from shareholders. dell isn't commenting on the rumors. america's economy could be poised for a comeback in 2013. i want to admit to being biased, not partisan, but biased against the stupidity of politicians who are willing to put your economy at risk. i am worried that these battles over the debt ceiling, these ridiculous sequester cuts that are coming up next, and the refusal to agree to a budget could derail an economic renaissance here in the united states. but investors don't seem all that worried at least for now. while some of you asked me whether you should wait until the debt and budget stuff is worked out to get back into the stock market, investors have put $19.8 billion back into u.s. stocks and stock holding funds since january 1st. markets are doing well too. the s&p 500 which may look like your 401(k) or i.r.a. investments is already up about 3% for the year.
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and hit a five-year high last week. now, in a low interest environment, like the one we're in now, you're not going to make money without being in stocks. be careful. a recent cnn money survey of money managers and investment strategists predicted that the s&p would only go up about 4.5% this year, that's after gaining 13% in 2012. but they're afraid of washington's unending partisan warfare getting in the way of economic growth. as i said, 2013 could be the year that america cruises back into prosperity. there is a domestic energy boom. there is a return of manufacturing. they're going to create job opportunities for americans, but businesses hate uncertainty. and as washington battles over issues that are important to america's economy, debt spending and budgets, businesses will continue to hold back on investment and on hiring. i'm glad investors are so confident right now. let's hope washington doesn't mess it up for you. that's it for me, from the cnn money newsroom in new york. i'm out. same time tomorrow. [ nurse ] i'm a hospice nurse.
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we are getting a little bit more on our breaking news, just a heads up, if you're in this area in st. louis there is word of a shooting at this college in missouri. we are told the suspect is in custody. still no word yet as to whether anyone has been injured. this is all happening at the stevens institute of business and arts in st. louis.
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obviously any updates we'll pass them along to you live on cnn. his managers are really bugging new york knicks carmelo anthony here. but it is not exactly what you think. let me explain. the star ledger newspaper is reporting that knicks management put extra microphones on the court in chicago. and get this, the new jersey paper is reporting, quote, these guys had one directive from knicks owner james dolan, record every syllable carmelo anthony utters and absorbs while he's on the court and on the bench. ledger goes on to say the move was reaction to anthony's face-off with boston celtic kevin garnett who reportedly taunted anthony about his wife. the knicks are telling cnn, no comment. but we all know who will talk here, cnn legal analyst sunny hostin, she joins me from new york. >> i sure will. >> you're going to talk. we got a microphone on you. putting microphone on the
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courts, is this even legal? >> it is legal, but it feels ic icky, sort of big brotherish. these are public guys, playing a very public game in front of millions of people that may be watching and certainly a lot of people in whatever venue they're playing in. and so it isn't illegal. i think it just feels bad to most. what people should note is typically if you're on the phone, or in your office or in a certain place, there is an expectation of privacy. and so it depends on which state you're in. for the knicks, if they're in new york, and they try to bug, let's say, his telephone, that would be a problem because new york is a one-party consent state. that means, hey, if one party consents to it, then it is okay. both parties to the conversation don't have to consent. >> but if they're looking, so, back to carmelo anthony, if they're looking to get his audio and if you have this microphone,
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we know how microphones work, they don't just catch which i'm saying or you're saying, it catches the noise around us. wouldn't management then be exposing themselves to potential trouble with that? >> yeah. that's an interesting question. because i think that's the question everyone is asking, well, what if the conversations of other players are picked up? but this is a very public venue, brooke. i'm not really troubled by it. i think the players are going to feel like, well what is the next step? if management is going to now start bugging the court, are they going to bug practices, are they also going to bug my car, are they going to bug my office? then it becomes a slippery slope. i mean, when do you stop? but right now, i think it is probably okay. >> okay. let me get to this other case, this 12-year-old boy in california has now been convicted, just convicted of second degree murder in the death of his father, neo-nazi leader jeff hall. the boy did commit the killing when he was 10 years old. a judge in this juvenile court
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said the child knew what he was doing, knew that it was wrong, sentencing will be held next month. and we're not saying his name here because of his age, but, sunny this young man could be put away in this juvenile facility until he's 23, his lawyer says he will appeal, appeal on what grounds? >> you know, he hasn't indicated what ground he's will appeal. typically you have a case like this, involving such a young person, he was 10 years old, brooke, when this crime was committed. you sort of attack on that ground. this -- this is an unusual type of case. but i've got to tell you this was a case tried in front of a judge, and juvenile court, significant evidence that this was an abused child, his father, a neo-nazi, who allegedly beat him, and sort of also mentally and emotionally abused him, so i suspect if you're his lawyer, you're going to try to attack the conviction on those grounds as well. when this story first broke a
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couple of years ago, people were talking about an insanity defense, that this kid was just so abused, that he wasn't responsible. so i suspect perhaps that angle will be explored on appeal. this is a very, very sad case. can you imagine a 10-year-old committing a crime like this? i have a 10-year-old myself, and that's just really a very young, young child. that's a baby. >> because he's a baby, he was a baby when he did this, it is a juvenile murder conviction. the slate is wiped clean when he's an adult, correct? >> see, a lot of people think that, and that's really not necessarily the case. it is a serious, violent felony. and the rules change, brooke, from state to state, but typically in my experience, you know, that doesn't happen when you have a serious felony. the case isn't just expunged. that means it is as if the crime never happened. sealed, maybe a different story. maybe removed from public record, but you can still find
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it, but an expungement of a second degree murder conviction, i don't think that's going to happen. and second-degree murder conviction -- sg not happening. >> i don't think that's going to happen. many people believe that these things automatically happen. that's not true either. it's a slow, painfuprocess to try to get records sealed or expunged. >> okay. sunny hostin on the case. i appreciate it today. >> thanks, brooke. >> i want to take you back to st. louis. you see all of these police cars, huge police presence at this college in st. louis. if you know the area, this is at the stevens institute of art and business. again, apparently the suspect is in custody but we're getting word that two adult men have been sent to the hospital. they are in critical condition. more updates in just a moment. [ all ] fort benning, georgia, in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation because it offers a superior level of protection
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after years and years, lying to the world, lance armstrong is finally coming clean. oprah winfrey sitting down with a man who was once called america's greatest sporting hero. in that interview, 2 1/2 hours on tape, basically blows the lid on armstrong's developing. i spoke with one of his former friend. >> at the time when it was
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starting to happen with the blood products and echl po apo d doping, when the sports started to change and speed went up dramatically, there were quite a few who got pushed out because we were confused and didn't do research and it never occurred to us that we actually had to do these types of products to compete. >> did you know some of these teammates who felt that they were forced into juicing or else they were off the team? >> yeah. lots of them are my friends and they are still friends. so we talk about it. we talked about it back then. and it's not a very large community. a lot of us tried to tell this story to the world more than a decade ago and the ones who did just got anile lated by lance armstrong. >> anile lated. that's a strong word.
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and you talk about apologies for you or your teammates or the bicycling community. forget about the lying and cheating. what about you? lance armstrong for years basically calling you all liars, daring to blow the whistle, daring to defame him. is his confession good enough for you? >> no. no. it was never going to be about a confession. i think the confession now is really just a starting point for him to help the sport of cycling. there are a lot of people out there still lying. there's his former doctor, his former team director. these guys are still perpetrating the lies that -- and deception that lance ruled over and lance holds the keys. he wants his control back and he desperately wants to be liked by the american public and you
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can't have it all. >> again, my thanks to paul willerton, former teammate of lance armstrong. this interview is happening on the oprah winfrey network on thursday. back to st. louis. clearly an upped police presence in st. louis. this is washington avenue in st. louis. there has been a shooting. here's some new video. this is video on the ground. i see one ambulance, possibly more. the big question is injuries. police are telling us at least two adult men being taken to the hospital in critical condition. is one of those adult men the shooter who is in custody? we do not know. this is all still coming into us. we're going to talk more about this on the other side of the break. stay right here. get more out of it. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like earning a bonus of up to $600 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in a schwab ira tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and 150 commission-free online trades tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 plus our rollover consultants handle virtually
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